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NC State Is Out: Vanderbilt Advances To CWS Finals Via ‘No Contest’

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Saturday at 1:10 a.m. CT, the NCAA issued a statement declaring Saturday’s NC State-Vanderbilt bracket championship game a “no contest” due to COVID-19 protocols. NC State’s season is over, and Vanderbilt will advance to the CWS Finals.

Here’s the full text of the announcement:

NC State is making just the third College World Series appearance in program history, but its quest for the championship will end one win shy of its first-ever trip to the CWS Finals. This is an unprecedented event in the history of college baseball, but we’ve seen other teams eliminated from the NCAA tournament under similar circumstances this year. NC State Baseball joins VCU Men’s Basketball, Notre Dame Men’s Hockey, Michigan Men’s Hockey, and Rice Women’s Volleyball in teams having to drop out of their NCAA Tournaments for COVID protocols this year.

According to multiple sources, two unvaccinated NC State players tested positive for COVID-19 this week, prompting the NCAA to test the entire roster, including vaccinated players. Four positive tests came back from that round of testing, prompting the no-contest ruling. All four of the latest positive tests came from vaccinated individuals who were in the dugout for Friday’s game against Vanderbilt, per multiple sources.

According to the NCAA’s Sport Science Institute guidelines:

Fully vaccinated student-athletes and other Tier 1 individuals with no COVID-19-like symptoms may be exempt from routine testing. Student-athletes and other Tier 1 participants who are not vaccinated must continue to undergo testing at NCAA championships.

If there is evidence of substantial or high transmission in the community, or if there are COVID-19 variants that escape the effect of the vaccine, then testing may need to resume for fully vaccinated individuals. Such decisions will be made in conjunction with local public health authorities and/or federal guidance.

The updated testing guidance also applies to Tier 2 and 3 individuals who may be subject to testing protocols at member schools and championships. If Tier 2 individuals are not fully vaccinated, they must undergo and document a negative PCR test within two days of arrival, or a negative antigen test within one day of arrival, and undergo daily self-health checks. Further testing is based on symptoms. Tier 3 individuals who are not fully vaccinated must undergo daily self-health checks, with testing based on symptoms.

Should state or local authorities require testing of vaccinated individuals, their guidance will supersede this policy and vaccinated individuals will be required to be tested.

The next logical question is this: How does this impact Vanderbilt? If four fully vaccinated individuals who tested positive participated in Friday’s game against Vandy, do the Commodores need to have their entire roster tested as well? Regardless of vaccination status? What about Texas and Mississippi State? Does the NCAA stick with the policy of exempting fully vaccinated players from routine testing, even after four positive tests from the vaccinated NC State contingent?

These are anxious times, and we don’t have all the answers. The one thing we can say for sure is that this is an excruciating, devastating turn of events for NC State.

Earlier Friday, we wrote about what was already a surreal day for NC State, Vanderbilt and the entire college baseball universe. It only got more surreal as the day turned into night.

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K M
K M
2 months ago

Thank you for providing the explanation that was missing from the NCAA’s announcement. Why they couldn’t have explained what you just articulated is unacceptable, but I’m not surprised by the incompetence of the NCAA anymore.

weedy275
weedy275
2 months ago
Reply to  K M

This Tyranny… If you baseball writers attend the game and don’t watch it from the safety of your Hotel room you are being Hypocrites.. Why, because of you going to the game you have decided that the COVID danger to you personally is so low that it is Irrelevant.

weedy275
weedy275
2 months ago
Reply to  weedy275

Support the Wolf Pack

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  weedy275

You are an idiot..

Jay Jordan
2 months ago
Reply to  K M

Quick question who gave the commencement speech at Vanderbilt‘s graduation this year? Where was a lot of the research done on the vaccination for Covid? Just a few questions that maybe you should do the research for yourself…….

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago

What a gut punch to wake up to. Unbelievable.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

Here’s some food for thought: Trevor Lawrence tested positive in the middle of the pandemic before the vaccines were out, there was zero contact tracing holdouts, and he was able to actual travel with the team and was on the sideline while being held out during the first Notre Dame game.

Casey Walkup
Casey Walkup
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

The CFP is not an NCAA sanctioned event. Therefore there are different rules, regulations and protocols. But I do get your point.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  Casey Walkup

This was during the regular season. Not the CFP.

Bgame
Bgame
2 months ago
Reply to  Casey Walkup

He sat out for 10 days and missed the game. He traveled after he had cleared protocols and tested negative. No contact tracing because they were being smart and making sure players weren’t together in close proximity without masks for long enough to creat a contact tracing issue. Clearly there were no such protocols in place now with things relaxed. Unfortunate timing without a doubt.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  Bgame

If he had tested negative and cleared protocols, why didn’t he actually play?

Mike
Mike
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

Because Clemson was being cautious with the first overall pick and wasn’t going to put him in a position where he could risk himself. Also ACC had mandatory heart screening requirements which weren’t done in time to play.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

Fair enough. But I had taken “cleared protocols” to mean that all the protocols had been cleared. From what you are saying, all the protocols had not been cleared.

Last edited 2 months ago by CBerry
Mike
Mike
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

Both of you were correct. He cleared the protocols that allowed him to be around the team (negative test) but not to play (health screening).

DJ Plummer
DJ Plummer
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

He hadn’t passed the cardio test yet.

Matthew
Matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Bgame

So I assume the NCAA will fully test all teams since players that got the vaccination were forced to sit after testing positive. This just wreaks of double standards.

Bob
Bob
2 months ago

Risk of covid complications for players is zero. Weak cowards to cancel this game.

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Bob

They are just following their own rules, which unfortunately have been guided by the misinformation furthered by politicians and the media, who contrary to their protestations of “following the science” have done exactly the opposite.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Nonsense.. Right wing babble..

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

COVID 19 does not exist……..SCAMDEMIC PLANDEMIC………and everything is not political

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Look honey.. An idiot..

Joel Fredrickson
2 months ago

Ok, Doc.

Darq Fybre
Darq Fybre
2 months ago

Careful. The normies and boomers are ready for such truth bombs. The still get their information from the skinner box in their living room.

gab(dot)com = free speech

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Darq Fybre

well it is what it is…..I got kicked off of a JAZZ message board(Organissimo) for posting my thread entitled, “The masked zombie apocalypse” back in February… The post is still up.as they decided to not take it down in order to use me as an example of “Right wing idiocy”…these people make everything political you know.. The COVID deception has traversed all walks of life and all levels of IQ even…..seemingly intelligent people have drank the KOOL aid.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

It appears they did so for good reason. Someone has to be the poster boy, and you qualify.

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Darq Fybre

You mean the Russians? Anybody who is against the shot gets their news fed to them indirectly from the Russians… They are just to stupid to realize it…

Mike G
Mike G
2 months ago
Reply to  Darq Fybre

I am your boomer, little boy, and I get my info from research & alternative media. Get your head out of your rear. For many, the jab’s effects will last far longer than a game of baseball.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago

no, not everything, just too much

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Look honey.. An idiot..

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Lmao.. Obviously I was responding to the idiot in covid denial.. Lol

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Can’t be in denial of something that does not exist…..

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Right….So tell me why so many of our school children are not back in school? Are we “guided by the science” while the rest of the world is killing their kids by having them back in school?

Jessica Taylor
Jessica Taylor
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Because you probably live in a liberal blue Democratic state. I live in Florida and kids have been in school in person since last August. I never wore a mask outside either. I’ve had Covid and survived it. I never even ran a fever. It was like a severe sinus infection on steroids. I thought these teams had to test regardless of vaccination status. I know FSU girls softball team had to Covid test at OKC

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

well, you just ID’ed your party affiliation, it is those who have bungled this, lied about this (see Fauci, Cuomo) that has brought this situation to the point it is. This has been mismanaged from the get-go. There is no risk for these boys, no no college athlete has gotten COVID, then had it turn into a tough part that it did for many. We do not understand it, our leaders do not understand it, and this has been the closest to the blind leading the blind, I have seen in my 69 years. They should have never set those guidelines, both our gov’t and the NCAA, until they knew more about what they were dealing with. They should have revisited what they constructed as it progressed. Should have been changes, but because there were not, this happened. Instead, a specific side took this as a political opportunity in this country, with everything that followed being viewed as, “how do we maximize the benefit to us, from this crises?” And that was their #1 goal, to use it to gain power, not to handle this most effectively.

Great people abound, both in the NCAA and a specific party. You need to look no further than where the worst problems, the worst mismanagement has been with COVID in those US states run by those who intended to pump it up to benefit from it, and not in a humanitarian way, but in a “oh boy, we just now have one of those crises we need to take advantage of”, or as Rahm Emmanuel once put it, “never let a good crisis go to waste”. That’s all I ever needed to know about how they look at, and manage events and policies. If you can deny that took place, it just opens the curtain shielding your ignorance. The international press is all over this, but it just somehow, can’t quite get attention, clarity here. Should, and could have been, a “we are here to help all” attitude and operating platform. Am not surprised, another moment of just how this has been mismanaged should have been easy to predict, they have gotten little right, except for the vaccine, so far. Don’t blame our political establishment for not knowing what to do, how could they have? Blame instead those acting like they knew what to do, all the while working to find and construct ways to gain from it. You are ignoring history, human psychology if you think this is pegged wrong, the lust for power has always caused events in history that should not have happened the way they did. “Here you go to likely die boy, but don’t forget to bring home the gold, in case you do not”, because truth be known, that’s how we ended up here in the first place, with lust for power taking front and center initially, followed by blatant stupidity, even criminal cover-up.

Sorry for the length, felt it was time to get to the core of the issue. Hopefully, we have learned something for the next time around. I’m not holding my breath.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

Moron sez what??..I believe in science.. You keep your head in the sand if you like..

Tutt
Tutt
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Science can tell you an elephant can hang over a cliff by it’s tail tied to a daisy. But use your common sense. Everything in the mainstream media is part of an agenda.

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

Or maybe go live in Brazil where they’ve managed the very real crisis per your recommendations?

Mom
Mom
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

Just get a shot North Carolinians, so the next team won’t have to go through this, stop being a know it all, and get a shot.

Jenna
Jenna
2 months ago
Reply to  Mom

Did you read the article?? The reason they got booted was because FOUR VACCINATED NC State player’s tested positive…so again…Vaxxed player’s could be spreading it and other teams could have pos cases from vaxxed player’s and no one would know bc they arent being tested. These kids aren’t sick.

dawg
dawg
2 months ago
Reply to  Jenna

yes 4 positives in vaccinated people is anomalous. if I had to venture an educated guess, I would bet this is a mix of false positives, maybe a true positive, and a case or two where they weren’t actually fully vaccinated.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mom

And you are the real voice of tyranny……..we have officially entered the NEW DARK Ages

greg
greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Mom

Monday, “They” announce the North Carolia vaccinated lottery winners! When has this great country EVER had to entice people to be healthy with a $1M purse!???? Go get an emergency use ONLY approved vaccine and pick a prize! No thanks! The Code Red was called in to release the “special project” we were working on for political gain. So many poor unfortunate sheep walking around U.S.A. today!

CharleeB
CharleeB
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Yeah okay Jon. Keep living in fear you lefty idiot

David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Hey, I am a right winger and I think these two are nuts. I got my shots.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  David

Science is not left wing or right wing

George
George
2 months ago
Reply to  Bob

We buried two players last year, STFU dimwit.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  George

They didn’t die from COVID

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago

To answer your question about the necessity of testing all the other teams players. In general, COVID rarely if ever spreads outdoors, especially not in the context of a baseball game. Moreover, it is obvious that testing is going on already. How else could they be enforcing protocols and the original NCS positives show up?

Last edited 2 months ago by RICHARD
KReam
KReam
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

We know the SEC skirts this issue and only does what is good for the conference. It’s been proven time and time again. You tell me Coach Saban was they only one with COVID. This is only one example. So is the NCAA going to push the Championship Series back a day to give the winner of the game on Saturday the same advantage as Vanderbilt with an extra day of rest – of course not.

Jenna
Jenna
2 months ago
Reply to  KReam

SEC totally skirted this issue during college football season. My gosh it was awful!

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  KReam

no, and the reason is protocol already set up, followed. You cannot run it one way for some, then another way for others, just because it seems fair or unfair. you have to set rules, guidelines, then follow those. Otherwise, you have chaos and then, biases would be in play. You may question what the NCAA drew up, used, and still uses (I know I do, and have), but you cannot fault them for following their own pre-set rules. As long as that is done, you have come about as close to “fair”, as you can get it. The results never seem fair, is why the process must be well thought out, then strictly adhered to. Change it along the way, but not retroactively, change it to, “from this day forward, here are the new rules and procedures”.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Oh bullshit! Bob is right. NCS is getting robbed for no reason. And yes this is a serious comment. You are just making stuff up. You do not know who the NCAA or Vandy is testing. If they test every vaccinated player at the CWS there would be dozens of false positives. Screw this. Come back next week and let the 4 teams left finish this on the field and then whoever wins will be a legit champion.

Last edited 2 months ago by B. Allen
RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

Not making anything up. The NCAA said they would be routinely testing the unvaccinated and obviously they were. Half the NCS team ‘rolled the dice” by not getting vaccinated and lost. Sad but true. Everybody knew the rules/protocol in advance.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

All they had to do then was get FAKE vaccine certificates then

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Agreed Richard… It all falls on the players… If they decided not to get vaccinated, they should have been more careful… Everybody is pissed at the NCAA but thank God they are stepping up and doing the right thing to prevent further spread. Hopefully NCS didn’t spread it to other teams/players…

LetItGoDude
LetItGoDude
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

It all falls on the players to get vaccinated so that the vaxxed positives don’t get revealed?

Is that a preferential public health strategy?

Play along to get along bullshit imperative.

And to prove it NCAA will hide their head in the sand over testing other three teams’ vaxxed.

NCState has 4 vaxxed positives and other three teams combined have zero? What are the odds?

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

If the NCAA truly cared about preventing further spread this would have been not been played in a full stadium with shoulder to shoulder people also inhabiting the same indoor stadium bathroom spaces.

Matthew
Matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

Dude did you read? Vaccinated players tested positive and were not allowed to play. Read the first sentence again. So if the NCAA is truly concerned test everyone on every team.

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Matthew

Dude can you read? All the 13 vaccinated players played Friday. It wasn’t until after the game that the 4 “vaccinated” player positives were made. It makes no medical sense to test vaccinated players on teams who have all been vaccinated or have no positive tests on the unvaccinated.

Jenna
Jenna
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

It makes perfect sense to test the other teams. A vaxxed person from another team could have been positive and spread it. The vaccine doesn’t stop transmission…it only lessen’s your symptoms, just like the influenza vaccine. I have my MPH in Epidemiology. Most people are not aware that this vaccine doesn’t really protect anything like lets say the MMR vaccine, etc. 🤦🏻‍♀️

dawg
dawg
2 months ago
Reply to  Jenna

ugh. might want to look into a refund on that degree

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Matthew

Matthew – Thanks for calling me out… Didnt see that and agree that should be the case!

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Matthew

Sorry – Just reread it stand behind my comment. If someone wants to be a dipshi$ it falls on them to be more prudent in their behavior. Get the dang shot or be more responsible about the people you’re around.. its that simple. They already had to sit out in March over covid protocols so they know the rules. Stupid/ dipshi$ / selfish player ruined it for the entire school. Call that dbag out… not the NCAA. Maybe I’m alone on this but my last 3 years in college I was very aware that every choice I made had consequences… Hate it for NCS but let’s face it, they wouldn’t have won anyways… Either Vandy or MSU would take them down. As Spurrier would say, we all have to play by the same rules… they may suck but they are the rules! God bless Spurrier by the way!

Jay
Jay
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

They don’t need a vaccine because they are as close to 100% of not dying from Covid as they would be any other virus. This idiocy that thinks everyone should be vaxxed is insane. No one under 50, that does not have any other serious medical issues, should take a damn experimental vaccine, especially someone as healthy as a college athlete. They have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike or the vaxx itself than they do of dying from Covid. That’s why we have an immune system. If you’re over 50, especially 65 and up, and have other medical issues, the “vaccine” is worth the risks. Anyone else who takes this thing has not looked into it, they belong to the cult of scientism, or they are the people who post pictures of themselves getting vaccinated as if it as awesome as their grandkids playing ball. The NCAA has a right to set the rules. But these rules are the rules of a dumbass.

Clay
Clay
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Disagree, they rolled dice about getting vaccine. But i doubt they were informed they have to sit out even if they didn’t test positive

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Clay

I never said anything about (unvaccinated) players being informed they would have to sit out even if they didn’t test positive. That happened only because there WERE positives on the team, and is an NCAA policy I as a health care professional disagree with. But the public does not have all the info because of “privacy issues” and the NCAA did say that in their statement.

dawg
dawg
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

which policy do you disagree with? quarantining close unvaccinated contacts?

dawg
dawg
2 months ago
Reply to  Clay

if they weren’t aware that exposures to coved are typically isolated for 7-10 days then I have no sympathy for them

Pootytang
Pootytang
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

So 2 unvaccinated players tested positive. Then, there were 4 players that tested positive in a 2nd round of testing on the NC State team. All 4 positives in round 2 came from players who were previously … VACCINATED! Everyone in the world wants to point their fingers at the “unvaccinated” as culprits, yet somehow more vaccinated players tested positive than unvaccinated. This proves that vaccinating doesn’t guarantee anything … or … is the testing flawed?

dawg
dawg
2 months ago
Reply to  Pootytang

it’s a mess. of course vaccinating doesn’t guarantee anything. people have a hard time understanding the realities of large numbers. it greatly reduces your risk of developing severe disease and transmitting it to others. that’s it. four positives among vaccinated players is fishy though. definitely some component of false positives or incomplete vaccination status.

Jay
Jay
2 months ago
Reply to  Pootytang

Exactly, it is an experimental vaccine that we have about 6 months of results on by treating the population as what normally is trials. We don’t know what it will do a year or two down the road. We don’t know how long it’s good for. They don’t know Jack. And for some reason, they pretend like young and extremely healthy college athletes need this totally experimental “vaccine” for a virus that none of them will have any issues defeating naturally IF they get it. We don’t even know if these are false positives or not. As much as they virtue signals about following the “science,” there is little to no science being employed, other than real time human trials on the population and college athletes who have zero reason to take this stupid “vaccine.”

Sean
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

But how do you know they “lost”? Have you read how many people are developing blood clots from this vaccine? It isn’t worth the risk. Too bad their season ended this way, but I would take having my good health and a shortened season any day to risking the vaccine. And what about long term effects that are still unknown at this point? Because of politicization we will likely never know..

Whit
Whit
2 months ago
Reply to  Sean

We have seen 6 upper extremity blood clots since April 15th 2021 – previously in a 29+ year career in medicine I had seen 1. Can’t prove it was the vaccine but all were within 6-12 weeks of vaccination and had testing that did not turn up any other cause. Again I can not prove it was the vaccine – but what else did they have in common – different sexes, ages, ethnic groups. Many are going unreported because the VAERS forms require SO much time and effort on the provider’s part to get them done. Some will not believe this because they don’t want to – but I have SEEN it with my own eyes – not second or third hand info. Read some of the articles about under reporting of possible side effects – because they are “possible”.

Mike
Mike
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

I’m a Hail State fan and I agree with you. Come back and let them play. Putting Vanderbilt in the undefeated bracket is a bad for Texas and Ms State but taking away the opportunity for NCS is a travesty. No. IT’s BULLSHIT.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

I was really impressed w/ the athleticism of those NC State outfielders, those were some great highlight grabs yesterday

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago

We agree on at least one thing, anyway.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

If we talked more baseball that sh*t be bound to happen!

Jenna
Jenna
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

I mean, what if State won yesterday and moved to the championship. Would they have just crowned either Texas or MS state the champions?? This is ridiculous. Im a Tar Heel…i loathe NC State, not as much as Dook…what i still hate seeing them do well lol…but this is so ridiculous.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

unfortunately, it was how they set it up, probably so they would not have things like basketball regionals ending at all different times. You cannot custom handle each event, have to set it, then either use it as you set it, or change it. But, not retroactively, just, “from this day forward, here are the new rules and guidelines for how we handle this”.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

State is getting the consequences of their choices, that is all that is happening. That’s what life is.

Sean
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick R

How do?

Matthew
Matthew
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

As the article said they only tested players who were not vaccinated. Then when they tested positive they tested everyone and 4 players with the vaccine tested positive. So then they kicked NC state out. So I would assume they will test all teams now in the name of safety seeing how vaccinated players came up
Positive.

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Matthew

The public does not know all the facts. We are not entitled to it. These are medical issues and thus there are privacy issues. They decided the game could not be played. It may have been because there would not be enough players who could pass whatever medical guidelines they have. We just don’t know. As a health care professional, I personally disagree with much of what I have seen of their policies. A significant part of it was designed to placate an ignorant, uninformed public.

Whit
Whit
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

Read an article from the Washington Post this morning that said a couple of interesting things. Unvaccinated players were being tested every other day since arriving in Omaha – so clearly that player(s) tested negative earlier in the tournament. Also the local County Health Authorities – who in the NCAA release it was said that they (NCAA) abided by the recommendations of the local Health Authorities – the article stated that the Local authorities only stated that they would back the decision of the NCAA – so looks like the NCAA was trying to assign blame to someone else – which again makes the whole situation questionable. I, too, am a HC professional and get so frustrated with the responses of the public and also with the policies supposedly adhered to by the NCAA.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago

I really hate the NCAA. I TOOK THIS YEAR OFF FROM GOING TO THE CWS and now I am glad I did. Nothing about any of this does not suck. Giving Vandy a free pass to the finals is not fair to NC State and it is not fair to whoever Vandy faces in the finals as Vandy will be more rested and Lieter will now get the start in the finals. As I said, nothing about any of this does not suck, but here is what I think would suck the least. Everyone go home and let the dust settle. Then the 4 teams still alive in the tourney go back next weekend (Friday) and finish this damn CWS the right way. And that may include replaying the Vandy v. NCS game that should have never been played on Friday. You wait and see, the 4 positive test results of the 4 NCS vaccinated players are going to turn out to be false positives and NCS will have had their chance for a Natty taken away for no damn reason.

Last edited 2 months ago by B. Allen
Michael D. Vaughan
Michael D. Vaughan
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

..or just take 3 days off, and come back to play….damn, baseball players are already 6′ apart, outdoors,. …let’em play…NCAA just wants their $$$$$$$.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago

Yes. 3 days, 5 days, 7 days, whatever it takes but finish this on the field.

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

See my comment below about “vaccinated.” Highly unlikely you would have 4 false positives in a vaccinated group that had time to develop a full immune response. It sucks, but the rules were known, and you don’t just toss them out the window because it pisses you off when it screws your team.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

I can’t see how it is unfair. Both teams knew the rules going in, and agreed to play under those rules. It’s not like the same rules didn’t apply to Vanderbilt. What would be unfair was if this situation were true for both teams and only one was removed from the tournament. Or if one team was allowed a base on balls after two balls were thrown rather than four. But if they play by the same rules, and one is caught by those rules, there’s nothing unfair about it. You can complain it is unnecessary, but you have no real complaint about the fairness of this ruling.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick R

All that your saying is irrelevant and NOBODy, much less 20 year old athletes, should be taking DNA altering injections

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

DNA altering injections? Exactly how stupid are you? There is not a vaccine that has ever been created that “alters DNA” . It is the foundation of the concept… otherwise known as our genetic fingerprint… which inherently means.. YOU CANNOT F&:&!?/& CHANGE IT!
Please sweet merciful god do not procreate.

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Thank you.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

You nailed it..the guy is beyond just the average level of stupid.. He’s made it all the way to complete moron status

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

I meant alters the function of your DNA…..

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

Still wrong. Do not double down on proving you are next level stupid…aka QAnon stupid. The vaccine, any vaccine, does absolutely nothing to the DNA. It never enters the nucleas of the cell. Which is where the DNA is. Let me help you Mr. Moonshine… The rooster (the vacinne) never gets in the hen house (the home of DNA aka the cell)
Now go enjoy the family reunion/tinder party.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

This so called vaccine is NOT a traditional vaccine

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago

Why all the fuss? Just drink some bleach if you get the disease…

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

there is no COVID disease

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago

If there weren’t such a thing as natural selection we’d have to invent it.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

What a moron.

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

You really are committed to proving you are mercifully free of the ravishes of intelligence.
Yes it is. Acts like one, administered like one. It is a traditional vaccine that came about in a very non-traditional way in terms of how quickly it “went to market”. Unfortunately there is no vaccine to combat the stupidity of people like you.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

this so called vaccine…….It is GENE editing technology

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

LMAO😂

Marc
Marc
2 months ago

You’re still stupid.

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Mike – Too funny! When I read posts like Stephen’s it makes me want to lobby to remove all warning labels from household appliances!! Just need to remove some blood lines from the general population! Oh man… Some crazy folks out there

Nick Adams
Nick Adams
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

DNA sequences change all the time. If not, there would be no such thing as evolution. A virus is basically an RNA strand that replicates by inserting itself into a cell’s DNA strand and tricking the cell into duplicating the virus when the cell replicates. This also can cause changes to DNA.

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago
Reply to  Nick Adams

“change all the time” and evolution should never be in the same thought. But you are wrong on a series of levels and I cannot help you. There is no correlation and you are simply wrong. Like stupid wrong…enjoy

Chris Holmes
Chris Holmes
2 months ago

It’s unbelievable that people as stupid as yourself are out there in the world. You and people like you are the problem and I wish you would fuck off and die you piece of shit.

Carl James
Carl James
2 months ago
Reply to  Chris Holmes

What he is saying boils my blood, but I do not wish death on anyone.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Chris Holmes

What is your problem……DUDE……and have you questioned any of what’s been going on the last 15 months with this COVID plandemic scamdemic?

CharleeB
CharleeB
2 months ago

Stephen you will never get the truth through to people who either don’t want to hear it or are too afraid to accept it. They are living in a permanent state of covid hysteria. Guara teed these people live in a liberal shithole. Majority of people in my state don’t wear masks and is 100% opened up and you don’t hear crap about covid anymore….well except for the next step of their plan and that is to keep pushing these “mutations” so whatever. The more the idiots buy into the legitimacy of this virus the more they strip your freedoms away. Perfect example is the UK. I don’t care if someone wants to call me a conspiracy theorist. All of these supposed conspiracy theorists are now being proven true and even the media is having to back pedal their asses off just so they can save face. Anyways God bless man and don’t let thesecommunists get you down. They lose in the end remember that

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  CharleeB

Thank you sir……you know what is still troubling here in NC is that the k-12 children is still being forced to wear masks which obviously they are being held hostage for the vaxxes and we were one of 5 states where youth were forced to play high school sports in masks including basketball. The damsge this Gov has done to children in this state is beyond anything cause he was not able to get his way with enforcing the general mask mandates.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  CharleeB

Oh sorry I called you sir…….didn;t read your name carefully…..with all respect

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago
Reply to  CharleeB

male or female you are as stupid as ass. Beforebyou say something dumb I am a Republican and “my liberal shit hole” id a very lovely home quite literally on the beach.

CharleeB
CharleeB
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Seriously you are going to call me stupid when you can’t even piece together a sentence correctly. Considering how horrible you write sentences I highly doubt you own beach front property in a liberal shithole which im assuming is California….so yeah I could give two shits about you or your house. However left wing politics is quite literally destroying once great cities. So understand I’m not referring to your shitty little beach house when I say liberal shithole. I’m talking about the cities as a whole which tend to have the highest homelessness and drug abuse statistics which in turn proves to be higher crime. So before you try to tear me down by using g sentence fragments and misplaced words you might want to gather your thoughts just a bit and then reply 😂 damn idiot.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Wow..a true moron has joined the discussion.. No facts to back it up with..but that won’t stop you from spouting drivel

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

you or nobody on here cab prove that COVID 19 even exists

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

There are a few million medical experts who would beg to differ. Then again none of them would think that someone as dumb as you could type so maybe you are on to something

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

there is no such thing as an airborne VIRUS contagion……

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

there are many doctors that will agree with me and many international doctors as well that have gone on record to say that it is a HOAX……Your referring to those bought and paid for MSM tv doctors that are hired out to push this COVID scamdemic agenda. And where are you getting the number “a few Million doctors” from.

Joel Fredrickson
2 months ago

ok, Doc

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

I agree, no one should be taking DNA altering injections.

How that applies in any way to this situation is only explanable with the drugs you seem to be on, but hey, your illusions (though utterly based in some fictional alternate timeline of the universe) sound like they keep you entertained.

Be careful, you can get hurt in that straight jacket.

Jay
Jay
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick R

Because the rule is stupid. Covid is not a threat to any of these college age, incredibly healthy athletes. To have a champion, the teams have to play the games. There is zero common sense or science being applied anywhere at all in the country. This is just the latest example. To make it worse, there are people like you who pretend this is a good decision and fair to the athletes. But really, it is utter stupidity all the way around.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

oh, no, there is a reason. It lies in the way we reacted to this whole thing, and the goofy remedies constructed. As in ventilators, masks, and harming our children’s development, all for “the cause”. Could not have been science guiding them, as we have all heard was used, there was no science for how to deal with this, the entire reaction was based on opportunity, and not that which could have minimized the damage. To never go back and make adjustments for age, health of those supposedly being “protected”, showed their hand.

Paul Cowles
Paul Cowles
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

Good idea. All go home come back in 2 weeks. Let fairness prevail.

BaconStripDivots
BaconStripDivots
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

I couldn’t agree more. Not enough money for the NCAA who were shitting a brick because N.C. State made it to Omaha. Test all staff and athletes from the final (three), and post those results. Damn shame.

Ralph Earl Fredericksen

Suppose NCS had won…..then what?

Charles Dobbins
Charles Dobbins
2 months ago

correct…… what now…..

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago

The winner of tonight’s Texas-MSU game would be crowned the winner of the CWS w/o playing the championship series. This is a seriously flawed process and decision.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

so, a reconstruct, just wing it, if it causes the advantage to fall into your lap. They followed procedures, that I do not agree with, they had, and used, over the past year. To pull out a new way, would be ridiculous. It proceeds as other tourneys in the NCAA has, and though it thoroughly stinks, it is what was constructed.

So, what your saying is they should change course from what they have done up until now, dump on VU, because of NC State? Wow, another, “let’s punish as many as possible” approach to get this pumped up even more so, from “not the best way” to “the totally stupid unfair way”. The NCAA has not got much capital left, but changing the rules in midstream would take away the last honor they have – being consistent with every team, no custom-designed remedies each time it came up. Got to give the NCAA this, they have been consistent, even if it appears to be an ignorant consistency.

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

That’s not at all what I said. I was simply answering the question “what would have happened if NCS had won?” by applying the rules in place. It’s not dumping on Vandy to point out the obvious fact that had NCS won yesterday, Vandy would have been eliminated.

NCS would still have been DQ’d leaving only MSU & Texas to play an elimination game tonight.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

I am not sure they would have been automatically disqualified. Because of the off day Sunday, they might have been forced to forfeit Monday, but still allowed to play on Tuesday based on testing results.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

that’s a laugher, it is so absurd. So, NC St does not manage it well, and the result is you dump on those who did? Wow, hope you never win an election that gives you any power.

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

I haven’t dumped on anyone, and I agree NC St’s wound is self•inflicted. Learn how to read.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago

THAT is a GREAT question.

Anthony davis
Anthony davis
2 months ago

probaly would have grandfathered LSU into ncs’s place!!

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Anthony davis

Woulda made Ben happy at least….

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Anthony davis

or Duke, and pretended it was basketball

Mike
Mike
2 months ago

The NCAA would have lost money. #followthemoney

Robert L
Robert L
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike

Negative. NC state vs sec or big 12 will bring more money than an all sec champ. And with Ms state picked over Texas the gamble would have fallen in ncs favor.

Charles Dobbins
Charles Dobbins
2 months ago

Thanks for the explanation… Based on their logic, why are they not shutting down the event….?? Covid only effects teams that wear Red?

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago

Red and white. Not black and gold.

Phillip C
Phillip C
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

That’s because the black and gold team was fully vaccinated to begin with. Had NC State done the same, we wouldn’t be here.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Phillip C

oh miss me with the vaccinated BS……….there is no COVID 19

Joel Fredrickson
2 months ago

ok, Doc

Harry
2 months ago

Stephan dear Stephan, so your saying 600,000 people died from watching CNN? Hope you don’t operated heavy machinery…

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago
Reply to  Phillip C

Ok, what if they tested the vaxxed Vandy players and 4 tested positive. What then?

Last edited 2 months ago by B. Allen
Jenna
Jenna
2 months ago
Reply to  Phillip C

Um but they called this when FOUR vaccinated player’s tested positive! How ignorant are you?? Doesn’t matter if Vandy is fully vaxxed…they could have multiple player’s that would test pos too. Hell they could be spreading it! The vax only protects you by lessening symptom’s, just like the influenza shot. It doesnt not work like traditional vaccine’s like MMR or DTaP. And before you try to come at me…i have my MPH in Epidemiology from Carolina. I dont’s even like NC State although I loathe them slightly less than Dook.

Robert L
Robert L
2 months ago
Reply to  Jenna

The issue with the testing is the sheer amount of false positives you can get. I don’t believe all of those 4 will be positive. It’s sad for the team but is what it is at this point.

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

so, you are for punishing the majority, giving the same remedy to those who were careful, to those who were not. Time for some advantages for those doing things right. Bad luck, for sure, poor reaction by the NCAA for sure. Consistent with what have been the guidelines for choices made so far, for sure. However, that will be what sticks the longest. Do not need custom, different ways to handle this each time it comes up, came up. All knew the rules, some decided they did not need the vaccine (and they were likely right), and were OK with taking that chance. You run the risk of being burned somehow, when you take unneeded chances. Just part of life. Still, it does seem to be a poor way to adjudicate this. Waiting a bunch of days to restart this for all is patently unfair to the other 3 teams, not to mention the problem it would cause with staying that long in Omaha, with all the expense, and nothing to to for the players, fans, families of the players. This is supposed to be an event for the players, not all of us watching, that is ancillary. We have a way today of airing that which affects the most people being the central point. It is not, it is what affects the participants, first, we just are along for the ride, however poorly it may turn out from being poorly managed.

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago

Because there is virtually ZERO risk of COVID transmission on the baseball field and THE SEVEN OTHER TEAMS PASSED THE COVID SCREEN.The risk is in the locker rooms and dugouts. It’s not even a serious health risk to the players. The real risk lies in spreading it outside the ballpark to wherever and whomever.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  RICHARD

If the NCAA cared about anyone’s safety, especially external to the games, then they’d have played this in a bubble, and not agreed to let the local municipality set the attendance rules. Aka 23k fans shoulder to shoulder in a sold out stadium inhabiting the same spaces. Sure its outdoors. The bathrooms in the stadium are not however. And if you spit on someone while yelling well those minuscule risks just went up non-trivially.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago

This looks to be as legit as…say…a recent election…?

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago

Yes, we should just get to mail in our vote on who should win the Natty. I would still like Michigan and Georgia’s chances.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

Lol

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Give it a rest..we already have the original Conspiracy Theory Guy..

Joel Fredrickson
2 months ago

that Trump lost by 7,000,000 votes and no one has found fraud?

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago

Not going there, this is baseball, not FOX

Carl
Carl
2 months ago

You brought up the election

Rick
Rick
2 months ago

or CNN, or MSNBC with their own versions of goofiness to do with conspiracy theories. They all play the same game, don’t be a fool and miss that bus. They just target it to their own audience, to maximize profit.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick

Yea, but those chicken-shit web sites don’t permit commentary, so I never visit them.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Careful.. These science deniers can’t handle the truth.. About anything thing dealing with science.. Or reality for that matter

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

Yes…….YOUR reality….cause the television says so

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago

Your just deflecting from the real issues at hand

Stephen Murray
Stephen Murray
2 months ago

This is just a bullshit excuse to punish good boys that don’t feel right nor necessary to put a liquid spike protein in their body that hasn’t even gone through animal testing. ‘F’ anyone who thinks this is ok. I live in Omaha. We look forward to this every year and these bureaucrats decide to implement rules randomly whenever they are on the biggest stage. Good season and this is bullshit.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Murray

You weeners in Omaha should be rioting right now. Burn it down. I know if I was an NCS fan I would be raising hell somewhere.

Last edited 2 months ago by B. Allen
CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

Burning it down would just make us look terrible as a fan base. Trust me, there are plenty in the fan base who want to do that and/or sue the NCAA. But you know, I think the guys earned a ton of respect this year for their play on the field and it would be a shame for the fanbase to throw all that away. The decision has been made and barring some miracle, isn’t changing. Sucks royally and it has killed my desire to watch any more of the CWS, but its done.

From one State to the other though – would like to see MSU get their first. Vandy is a great team, but impossible to pull for, in part because the whistler should not get rewarded. And in part because State didn’t get the chance to try and win their way on the field.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

Dude, I was not serious about the burn it down thing. I am however really pissed and that does evoke stupid comments like mine.

CBerry
CBerry
2 months ago
Reply to  B. Allen

I knew it wasn’t literal. I’m more just sad than pissed. This was a special team, one in which the fanbase has a right to be proud of. Just saying I’d like memories of this team and run to be positive and not a never ending stream of woe is us persecution syndrome, which us pack fans have a tendency to wallow in sometimes.

B. Allen
B. Allen
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

My wife’s family are tarheel fans an even my wife was pulling for you. I guess a North Carolina thing.

Ouiver
Ouiver
2 months ago
Reply to  CBerry

I don’t think I can watch the champ series just because of the whistler

Philip A Cline
Philip A Cline
2 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Murray

The vaccine went through extensive animal testing and extensive human trials. There are more vaccinated Americans (now) and the efficacy of the vaccine exceeds the efficacy of another annual shot – the flu shot. Irony of it all is that anti-vax or pro-vax probably decided 2 NCAA championships this year. A team outside the Big 5 conferences, Marshall University knocked off Clemson (#1 ranked team), Georgetown (defending champ) UNC (tournament host) and Indiana (school with most NCAA soccer championships) in their run to the national championship. THEY ALL GOT VACCINATED TOGETHER a month prior to the tournament which allowed the. To bond I. The torurnBr t.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Philip A Cline

The numbers have been so politicized as to be quite dubious at best…really no one has any credibility anymore, least of all the current governing bureaucracy. Believe it if you wish, I remain skeptical.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

No doubt the numbers have been politicized, and certainly the bureaucratic decisions have merits and demerits for both sides. I don’t blame anyone for remaining skeptical about any particular policy decision. However, it’s easy enough to find what the scientists have for information, and read up as to what scientists believe, that you can make informed decisions, if a person wants to make his/her decisions based on facts.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Philip A Cline

Correct..100%..but the anti-vaxx nuts refuse to actually use their brain.. Unfortunately..

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

And your chronic mask wearing has probably destroyed your brain through O2 deprivation..

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

The Complete Moron Guy has joined us ..are you the younger brother of Conspiracy Theory Guy..??

CharleeB
CharleeB
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

You bring conspiracy theory guy so much it is almost like you want to blow em….makes sense…you’re a lefty

Concerned
Concerned
2 months ago
Reply to  Philip A Cline

This is an absolute lie. I work for one of the pharmaceutical companies that developed one of the vaccines. It typically takes us 7 to 10 years to test an experimental drug to validate its safety and efficacy. This agent was brought to market after about 1 year of research and the government passed PROJECT WARP SPEED into law, that ensures that we, the pharmaceutical industry, are not liable for any adverse events associated with the drug. This is why none of these experiments have a full FDA approval only emergency approvals. Follow the SCIENCE and you will see you that this “vaccine” is simply an experimental agent at this time. Thus many vaccinated individuals still testing positive for Covid forcing the powers that be to constantly promote the “variant strain” narrative now. Beware!

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Concerned

well aid and well spoken

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Concerned

Your entire post is utter horseshit.. You believe the earth is flat, don’t you??..

Greg
Greg
2 months ago
Reply to  Concerned

Actually, it was originally experimental because you need a full 6 month trial. They recieved a provisional approval based on 3 months of data. But at this point, we have over 6 months of data so its no longer a provisional FDA approval.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

It;s still EUA only…….

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Philip A Cline

And STOP with the lying………all of you all pro vaxxer, pro masker covidiots will be dead in 6 months if you don’t wake tfu

Joel Fredrickson
2 months ago

wanna bet, Doc?

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago

will you still be wearing masks in 6 months? probably

RICHARD
RICHARD
2 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Murray

Definitely a CONSPIRACY! Damn that Music City money!

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Stephen Murray

amen and amen

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

To the guy above. When you say you worked in a pharmaceutical company I don’t think clearing out the trash qualifies you to comment on the vaccine.
Anyone with half a brain who dares to educate themselves before they talk knows that the reason the vaccine was developed so quickly is because they had started working on it years ago when SARS was pervasive.
Funny how you guys love to TRUMPet the drivel of the far right. But you ignore that OPERATION WARP SPEED was started prior to November. So If the virus and the vaccine are hoaxes then I am left to wonder why did the republican party , of which i am a proud member, create the vaccine?
It became a hoax when a faction of this country decided to look for something to blame for the election.
The vaccine is science, the virus is real.
was there gross over reaction? YES.
But if you over react to something it does not make that something fake.
So live your life and do whatever you want- just do so knowing you a galactically stupid, un-informed, and you are embarrassing yourselves.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

No such thing as an airborne virus contagion

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

Please look up words before you use them. Contagion is the spread of something from close contact. So what you’re saying is there’s no such thing as an airborne virus that spreads from close contact which is fundamentally nonsensical , irreversibly stupid, but it’s consistent with your theme and you repeat that no less than three times throughout this thread. So here is some advise.
Stick to words amd concepts you’re familiar with
meth and moonshine
incest or How fast is that goat

Jon
Jon
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

Science is neither right or left.. But..one quibble..1 of the 3 vaccine makers was not part of warpspeed

Peter
Peter
2 months ago

All the NCS players had to do was get vaxxed. They knew the rules. Completely on them or the coaches for taking the risk and losing the bet.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Peter

Stop….really?

A J
A J
2 months ago

Absolutely. If you don’t believe in the vaccine, you take one for the team anyway, cause everyone knew the rules going in. Selfishness gets you tossed and regretting your decision for the rest of your life. And that’s a shame.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  A J

What you don’t know very likely far exceeds what you seem so certain about.

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Talking about projection.. Wow..you take the cake in projection.. Lol

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon

You need to get out of the matrix……sir

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

We certainly could say the same for you, and probably for almost anyone, don’t you think?

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick R

YES, absolutely! I’ve always said to my kids, “you better get everything done now while you have all the answers, cuz once you get my age, you realize you don’t know ANYTHING!”

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  A J

what are you? some kind of covidiot provax/mask rettard…….”selfishness”?……cause I don’t want to be crippled for the rest of my life

Sutpens 100
Sutpens 100
2 months ago

Maybe you’ll be dead for the rest of your life instead.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Sutpens 100

you will be dead in 6 to 12 months from the COVID shots

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

Seriously I want to have a beer with you. Then I will feel empowered because no matter what I will know there is somebody dumber than me out there . You truly are a fucking idiot

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike M.

no, I believe in PROBLEM SOLVING……you know, Solutions……. you name calling me just like a little 13 year old girl.is not solutions oriented.

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

So you think that my name calling it’s not problem-solving and you think you’re a problem solver and then you turn around and call me names. I’m not calling your name I’m just assessing what you are making every attempt to prove to the world; you’re quite literally one of the dumbest motherfuckers in the history of this planet

Jay
Jay
2 months ago

aren’t you missing your Oath Keepers meeting?

Rick
Rick
2 months ago
Reply to  Jay

no, he was heading to the “Save Cuomo” meeting, to cause trouble. Not that someone should not cause enough trouble to make sure that partisan idiot gets his just desserts. Lie, lie lie, cover, cover, cover. Great people! Not sure we always get what we deserve, NC St surely did not, but thinking maybe the people of NY did.

A J
A J
2 months ago

Right but you would cripple the rest of us in a heartbeat. How can you even live with yourself.

Greg
Greg
2 months ago

Stephen – Based on your comments, you already are crippled my man! Intellectually at least… My sincere apologies if you are a war vet or were born like this… We all have our issues

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago
Reply to  Greg

the issue is that you all have dranken the COVIDIOCRACY KOOL AID…..and you people have been instrumental in destroying this nation these last 15 months. masks.vax…vax/masks……masks/vax……YOU that believe in the COVID scamdemic ARE premeditative MASS murderers, cause you believe the children should be getting these shots,

Greg
Greg
2 months ago

You are too far gone my man! Learned long ago you cant rationalize with irrational folks…. Good luck in life man! You are going to need it

Mike M.
Mike M.
2 months ago

“dranken” ? Hey Deliverance … are you kidding me?

NYC Blue Devils Baseball
NYC Blue Devils Baseball
2 months ago

Using the word Rettard is wrong I guess you don’t have someone close to you who is disabled.

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago

I do not consider disabled people to be retarded

Peter
Peter
2 months ago

Read up above that. It all started with 2 unvaccinated players.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Peter

Okay, Covid is not the boogeyman it has been portrayed as, the election is over, the wedge issue can be retired now. Go over to CNN please, Rachel Maddow’s on.

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

So why are you on here whining then? The NC State players made a choice they had a right to make, and then followed the consequences of that choice according to the rules of the game. I don’t like the MLB extra-inning base runner rule, but I get that it is the rule and officials have to enforce the rules as written.

Donald Peterson
Donald Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Rick R

You’re probably right, I think the NCAA knows it’s got some big problems ahead, and is in a bit of knee jerk mode. Justice Kavanaugh fired a pretty close warning shot Monday. They know they’ve got to tow the political line these days I’m sure

stephen baczynsky
stephen baczynsky
2 months ago

The NCAA needs to get off this COVID testing fetish that they are on…. …PCR tests are not meant to diagnose for anything

Rick R
Rick R
2 months ago

Wow, the first statement I’ve read of yours that doesn’t sound absolutely ridiculous. I agree with this point.

menotti8
menotti8
2 months ago

All, please read and listen:

I’m a health care provider (PT) in rural western NE. I’m also a conservative who didn’t vote for Biden. I actually have read the scientific literature on this and have not based my opinion on the media’s reporting of these things. I also have a wife who is 35, has no prior health comorbidities (heart, lung, diabetes, etc health problems), was and is still not overweight, and was very active (ran and did Insanity or other workouts x6 per week) prior to getting COVID in late Oct 2020. She did not get hospitalized, but currently still cannot walk even a half of a block without nearly passing out (her oxygen drops into the 70-80s of oxygen saturation – normal is >90%), has tremors in her arms and legs, has debilitating headaches and chest pain with simple movements, and can’t even take a shower while standing for longer than 5 mins. This has been 7 months now with no improvement. This is REAL and she isn’t making this up. Every time someone says COVID is fake, it only affects people who are unhealthy or older, or that it’s a political invention, YOU are discrediting individuals who are really suffering from it. I take that very personally because my wife is one of them and my family and our 5 kids have suffered as well on this journey with her.

Further, I have no reason to lie – I voted Republican in the last election for goodness sake, guys. I’m a social conservative as well! Vaccination really does work, and if any of you understood the scientific literature and read it you would already know this. Granted, it’s not 100% effective, but no vaccination is, nor is any treatment when it comes to healthcare, so you can’t use isolated cases to dismiss the effectiveness of something when the much larger population demonstrates that it does. Not even treatments that I use like exercise always fix everybody’s orthopedic problems. Sometimes there are unlucky individuals that don’t respond to treatment, and sometimes people just don’t do what they’re supposed to do with that treatment that’s provided to them despite one’s best efforts to educate them on these things.